Dojo-Show-Go! Episode 157: Sounds Like Seven

We debate whether Nintendo would really throw another circle pad on 3DS.

By M. Noah Ward. Posted 08/24/2011 08:00 16 Comments     ShareThis


Dojo-Show-Go! Episode 157: Sounds Like Seven

Kevin and Evan join Noah to question a second circle pad for 3DS and the mysterious, upcoming conference.

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Recording Date
August 23, 2011

Noah, Kevin and Evan

00:00:00 Introduction
00:05:15 What We’re Playing
00:19:53 3DS’s Second Circle Pad and Press Conference
00:35:17 Warm Fuzzies Feedback
00:44:50 Conclusion
00:46:06 Credits

00:47:49 Total Length



16 Responses to “Dojo-Show-Go! Episode 157: Sounds Like Seven”

  • 690 points
    KisakiProject says...

    I live right outside of Philly. We were on an outing for work at a Go-Kart/Mini-Golf/Arcade place. I didn’t even notice the Earthquake. Apparently they evacuated our office building.

    Anyways back to the games…

    I actually love the underwater levels in Mario 64. They were really awe inspiring at the time. However, they do unnerve me in Zelda lot.

    The hardware design thing sounds insane. It would also kill their relations with their core early adopter audience. I can’t think of a worse move.

    In terms of the Sep 13th conference. I’m guessing Monster Hunter 3DS, Love Plus details and maybe a new announcement. Maybe, Majora’s Mask 3D sooner than we think?

    This hardware rumor may be a prototype in case 3DS totally flops this holiday? kill it and launch a new system?

  • 690 points
    KisakiProject says...

    Oh I forgot it was good to here Evan & Kevin back.

  • 1332 points
    Andrew Hsieh says...

    A second circle pad would be so hilariously out of place, methinks. People mentioned it but yeah, how’s that going to pan out for other games (i.e. older games on 3DS? assuming it gets to the point where we can say “older games” and not “the only games that came out on 3DS”)?

    Either way, I’d still buy it … eventually … maybe not.

  • 7 points
    Katharine Byrne says...

    I agree that a second circle pad wouldn’t really work. I’d be incredibly surprised if they announced a variation on the hardware, especially given the recent price drop. It would be yet another thing to single out early buyers and I don’t think that would go down well with consumers.

    On a side note, I still think the 3DS is rather flimsy. I never upgraded my DS ‘Phat’ to a DS Lite, but my old DS is perhaps one of the most sturdy handheld consoles I’ve ever owned. My 3DS d-pad in particular feels loose already, and the hinges on the upper screen don’t feel nearly as tight as my DS.

    • 1332 points
      Andrew Hsieh says...

      The D-pad on my DS Lite is extremely loose right now, and I have to press with all the force of a rhinoceros for it to do anything. My Phat burned out (literally) ages ago. s’what happens when you let it near younger fingers …

  • 432 points
    dmgice says...

    The website that “broke” the rumor was only seven hours late on saying the PSP2 would be called Vita and they ran a rumor that the Wii successor would have a screen in their controller. Kotaku gave them a lot of credit; but that’s because Kotaku is run by Slowpokes and Slowbros. (No offense Brian; but it’s true. Kotaku is still better than Destructoid though.) So, I think that the rumor is completely dumb and false.

    The press conference.. here are my fanciful, and farfetched ideas on what it will be about.

    1. Announcement on when NES games will be available for non-Ambassador 3DS owners with pricing.
    2. New Fire Emblem game. (Spring 2012 release)
    3. The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 3D Edition (Spring 2012)
    4. Pikmin 3D Edition (It’ll be a port of the first game. First Quarter 2012)
    5. 3DS Wars for Summer 2012 (Advance Wars franchise)
    6. Some kind of sports game like Wave Race or 1080 Snowboarding for the 3DS.
    7. Two new colors of 3DS (Pink and White)

    There was a big Konami press conference recently where they showed off Beyond the Labyrinth, announced it will be playable at TGS, and then showed off three new special edition Love Plus 3DS units.

  • 432 points
    dmgice says...

    Okay. Metroid Other M has a pre-1950’s strong heroine in it with an Objectivist Commander modeled after a cross between John Galt and Patton. Making Samus Aran closer to Dagney Taggert actually made me like her more. I feel that the audience that respects Samus Aran for her faults is not the audience that complains about her personality in Metroid Other M. I actually feel that Other M gave her much more complexity than a lot of those “neo-feminist” articles about it comprehend. I liked Samus even more after Other M. Because it set up proper canon for the series. Which would be Metroid: Zero Mission, Metroid II, Super Metroid, Metroid: Other M, and Metroid Fusion. That said, Other M set up a great universe for us to explore in an eventual Prequel to the first game. Maybe I read too much old literature, I felt that Samus is still a strong character and the addition of faults made her a better character. Of course, I’m a crazy guy who’s read Atlus Shrugged three times, loves Herman Melville’s books, and wishes more people respected Raymond Chandler’s work.

    Really? Prof Layton isn’t math class. It’s story telling brilliance. Here is a suggestion, if you think Layton is all about math.. don’t play 999. We don’t want to hear complaints about 999. Complaining about 999 will make you end up on a boat somewhere with a numbered pocket watch.

    tl;dr: I liked Metroid Other M. 999 is more about math than Layton. Complaining about 999 will get you murdered.

  • 576 points
    MegabusterLegends3 says...

    I’m sorry, but when I saw 3 of the same questions in my SAT and in Layton, I have to say it feels like Math Class.

    • 576 points
      MegabusterLegends3 says...

      Also, while 999 has more “by the numbers” math, it makes much more sense in the story’s context. Maybe this gets better with later entries, but Curious Village puzzles usually came about like this…
      LAYTON: “Oh, its a shame he had to die like that”
      LUKE: “But Professor, he just walked through the door, alive and well!”
      LAYTON: ” … Fiddlesticks”
      RANDOM CITIZEN: “I need a girlfriend. Maybe the chicks will dig me if I (meaning you) solve this puzzle!”
      LAYTON: “The answer is none at all. Cats don’t bounce!”
      RANDOM CITIZEN: “Kewl. Here’s a chair”

      I mean, how do you defend that?
      That reminds me of pretty much every edutainment game I played through the 90s. Oh, wait, I still have more fun playing Spy Fox (Whos games I only used to play because I thought he was Star Fox)

      • 432 points
        dmgice says...

        Curious Village’s main complaint was that the puzzles had little to do with the story. They changed that drastically for the series from then on. So, your view on the first game is not a valid criticism for the rest of the series.

        Of course, considering that everyone in the Curious Village is *spoiler alert* a robot designed to entertain a little girl who likes mind puzzles, this makes much more sense. It makes sense that the puzzles are ridiculous and not in context with what is happening in Curious Village. Diabolical Box and The Unwound Future have more context relevant puzzles.

        Also, most of the puzzles in Layton are because of it’s origins. It’s essentially the spiritual successor to the Brain Age series of titles, except that -this time- there is a storyline to go with it.

  • 576 points
    MegabusterLegends3 says...

    Excuse my reply to the Layton Lover, don’t read that if you don’t want to. Anyway, here is my more Bread and Butter post.

    In the case of Metroid Fusion, I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to like it, but I think the levels are poorly designed and programmed. Either that, or the game needs to do a bit of a better job of directing you. FYI I wasn’t trying to sequence break, I was just trying to progress. Btw, thanks for the help with the speed boots thing. Not. I was underwater, so maybe that would jog your memory. In my opinion, Fusion depends too much on “Shewt or Bawm teh wawls tew fined seekret wholes”.

    By the way, I beat Super Metroid, so there. I don’t suck at games. Maybe I’ll try Fusion again with my 3DS version.

    By the way, don’t give me priority because I’m newer, Noah, give me priority because I type all of this out on my 3DS, since I spilled coffee on my PC keyboard.

    Guess I haven’t finished rebelling. Last week, that was just my Terrible Twos, now I’m a brooding emo Teenager.

    I agree, my 3DS feels more sturdy than any previous handheld system. Of course, FEELING sturdy and BEING sturdy are two different things. Though my see-through translucent super awesome Duck Taped GBA feels flimsy, it still works after being dropped countless times and being dipped in boiling water by my mean cousin after my Wingull beat her Treecko. It was better than her beating me up, anyways.

  • 576 points
    MegabusterLegends3 says...

    I wasn’t judging the series as a whole, note, I put “I don’t know about the other entries”. Anyway, THANKS A LOT FOR SPOILING IT any chance I had of getting back into has been totally ruined. Though now that I know, how could she afford to build all those robots? Was it that creepy girl under the clock tower next to the cat? I should have known she was trouble …..

    • 432 points
      dmgice says...

      I put a*spoiler* tag on it. Also, I’m not telling you who built those robots, why they were built, who the girl is, what the other secrets of the village are, what mysteries lay in the credits, what the Golden Apple treasure is or anything else. That said, I feel Curious Village has the weakest story of the three titles. Diabolical Box is a bit better; but Unwound Future is the real pay off for the first trilogy. Kinda like.. I feel the first two Phoenix Wright games were only building up for the amazing third game. Also, the third Layton game ties EVERYTHING together so nicely. O_O Oh, you don’t have to solve every puzzle to get through the game. So, that might help a bit. The first game is a bit short actually. It’s worth playing through at least once. The second one is a bit more focused and the third one is just excellent. The third game in the present trilogy is my favorite. The Past trilogy is Last Specter (DS), The Eternal Diva (DVD), and Mask of Miracles (3DS).

      Then we’ll eventually get another trilogy of games -hopefully- based on the after credits goodness. The third Layton story (Unwound Future) is so good. Of course, I rather like the characters in the series.. so it was a great pay off for me. It has the most character development in the series and turns Luke, Layton, and even that one “villain” character into much deeper characters. It also has to do with Time Travel. A “Time Travel Plot” has to be done correctly to be awesome and Unwound Future pulls it off in awesome ways.

  • 381 points
    Hyawatta says...

    Must Match Wii U Controller Capabilities.

    I would like to have a second circle pad and a widescreen touchscreen. The most convenient way to upgrade might be to send the old system in to Nintendo so they can transfer all of your info to the new system. Either that or allow Best Buy and Gamestop employees to help with the process in the stores when you trade it in there.

  • 381 points
    Hyawatta says...

    I almost forgot, I would also like to have ZL and ZR buttons.

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